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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  zojs on Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:29 pm

We must be clearly ANICENT GREEK, IS ANCIENT ILLYRIAN, AND GREEK WORLD IS ILLYRIAN WORLD, today world must to know that to now was a greek falsification - enough is enough!

HILLIR AND HELLEN are two words fron One illyrian language, for that is not recognized hellenicos, but only Greece!

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:23 am

zojs wrote:We must be clearly ANICENT GREEK, IS ANCIENT ILLYRIAN, AND GREEK WORLD IS ILLYRIAN WORLD, today world must to know that to now was a greek falsification - enough is enough!

HILLIR AND HELLEN are two words fron One illyrian language, for that is not recognized hellenicos, but only Greece!

I dont know the name this language has been called, all I know it is Albanian:



E=është, a, o, ë
ou=jo, nuk
soi=soj, lloj
dokei=duke, duket, dukem, dukej, dukesh

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  zojs on Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:09 pm

ZEUS10 wrote:
zojs wrote:We must be clearly ANICENT GREEK, IS ANCIENT ILLYRIAN, AND GREEK WORLD IS ILLYRIAN WORLD, today world must to know that to now was a greek falsification - enough is enough!

HILLIR AND HELLEN are two words fron One illyrian language, for that is not recognized hellenicos, but only Greece!

I dont know the name this language has been called, all I know it is Albanian:



E=është, a, o, ë
ou=jo, nuk
soi=soj, lloj
dokei=duke, duket, dukem, dukej, dukesh


That's good enough, words - hillir and hellen, are from the same language - Albanian-Arbanian-Illyrian-Pelgasian - dokei soi skip (dukej soji shqip).

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Sorry but its Albanian..

Post  ZEUS10 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:32 pm


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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:40 pm


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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:26 am





A stele (from """Greek"""": στήλη, stēlē, plural: stelae, στῆλαι, stēlai, also found Latinised singular stela and Anglicised plural steles) is a stone or wooden slab, generally taller than it is wide, erected for funerals or commemorative purposes, most usually decorated with the names and titles of the deceased or living .

It derives from the Albanian shtyllë=pillar


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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:09 pm



As you can randomly see the only difference betwen most of the so called "Ancient Greek" words(nouns) and Albanian is the ending os.

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vazhdojm me tej

Post  sulioti on Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:14 pm

Shqipe e vjeter (gr) si shpjegohet ne Shqip; Shqipe e sotme
spon-dhiliqi-stili shpon-lidh-shtyll shtyll kurrizore
gjatrro(s ) gjat-rron doktor
thoraka(s ) i thururi kraharori
matemati(ki ) me-the-mat matematik
histori(ki) iste-nje-her historia
grafi(ki) germoj nga ku rrjedh(germa) shkroj
theatro(s) the-ate-rron teater
athleti(s) hidhet-leht atleht
marathona(s) mar-e- thona(dha mesazhin an e mban) maratona
olimbia ulli-mbia ose mbi-ullinj ullimbia
sparti spat-ri ose me shpat-rri shpataret etj etj etj heres tjeter. Shocked Shocked

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:49 pm



derives from the word dorë=hand
Derivates
Dhuroj(first person singular), dhuron(3 pers. sing)
Dhurate(gift)
Dorëzoj
Dhuroke
Dhash
Dhonkam
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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:11 pm

Is the following statement true?

As we know, history derives from the Ancient Greek ιστορία [historía], to learn or know through inquiry, record, or narrative.

Let's see:



how about this :


ishte in Albanian shows a action that belongs to the past, so does the history


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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  AuLoNa on Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:17 pm

^^^shume interesante Zeus!

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:45 pm



perplex(english)=mpleks, pleks, ngaterroj, gershetoj.

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vazhdojm te nxierrim ne shesh te verteten e madhe

Post  sulioti on Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:00 pm

shqipe e vjeter,(gr) , si shpjegohet ne shqip, shqip sot
lulu, - (dhia), - lyer le, -lule
tragu,-(dhi),- tregimi i nje ngjarje ne formen e vjeter(rapsodet),tregon=kendon
dhendro,(-),-n,dhe+rron,-pemet ose druret
uran,-(os),-ura ne kuptimin e ures, ose yjet+ran,-qielli
perikli;-(s),-peri+kliu=lidi peri (i bukur)etj etj Shocked Shocked

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:40 pm



from the word hir derives the other Albanian word hajër which isn't from turkish origin at all.

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:08 pm



It means in Albanian : mes mbrin= when the sun arrives in the middle of the sky at noon.

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:35 pm

I think this word is related to the name Pelasg or Pelag or Plak but I still posted in this thread


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SI erdhen disa gjera te pastra deri ne ditet tona !

Post  sulioti on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:28 pm

shqipe e vjeter(gr) si shpjegohet ne shqip sot
theatro(s)= the+ate+rro=ajo e then qe rron
athina(-)= a +thina= e thena , e degjuara per faktin se kishte nam te madh.
olimbia(-)=oli+mbia=ulli+mbi ose mbi +ulli,eshte pikerisht vendi ku ben lojrat e para ulli=mbike
athleti(s)=ath+leti=hedh+lehti=ai qe hidhet leht,leht nenkuptojm;i lehte per te kercyer, i leht per te vrapuar, i lehte ne levizje ne pergjithesi.A nuk eshte ky atleti.....Etj etj .... per heren tjeter.

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:32 pm

sulioti wrote:shqipe e vjeter(gr) si shpjegohet ne shqip sot
theatro(s)= the+ate+rro=ajo e then qe rron
athina(-)= a +thina= e thena , e degjuara per faktin se kishte nam te madh.
olimbia(-)=oli+mbia=ulli+mbi ose mbi +ulli,eshte pikerisht vendi ku ben lojrat e para ulli=mbike
athleti(s)=ath+leti=hedh+lehti=ai qe hidhet leht,leht nenkuptojm;i lehte per te kercyer, i leht per te vrapuar, i lehte ne levizje ne pergjithesi.A nuk eshte ky atleti.....Etj etj .... per heren tjeter.

Theatri eshte vendi ku flet, ku thua
Atlehti duhet se s'ben te kete trup te lehte, t'let

Standard formTosk formGheg formTranslation
ShqipëriShqipëriShqypni/Shipni/ShqipniAlbania
njënjënji/njâ/njoa/one
nëntënëntë/nëndënândë/nant/nonnine
ështëështëâsht/osht/âis
bëjbëjbâj/bojdo
emëremërêmënname
pjekuripjekuripjekunimaturity
gjendjegjëndjegjêndjesituation
mbretmbretmretking
për të punuarpër të punuarme punu(e/a)to work
rërërërërânë/zallsand
qenëqënëkênë/kânëbeen (part.)
dëllinjëenjëbërshêjuniper
baltëbaltëbâltë/lloçmud
cimbidhmashëdanëtongs
sysy/sisy/söeye
syrisyni/sinisy/söeye-the infinitive mood
gersheregersheregershanescissors
femerfemerfemenwoman, female

â +t'let=atlet

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  alfeko sukaraku on Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:17 am

θεμισ-themis...shqip..them nje vjersh-ishte e thene-te thenat.Fjala ne greqishten e lashte perdoret si "shpjegim-ligje-vjershim".Ketu po i bashkohem mendimit te Zeusit per fjalen "theater--the" duke shtuar se me rrenjen "The" kemi The=perndi.Theos=Kryeperendia=thenesi=ai qe thote ligjet.

δαλον-dalon...shqip ..dal ne dete-dalje detare.Greqishtja e re" limen=porte detare"

δελον-delon ..shqip djellon-del=shfaqet.Greqishtja e re "faneronet=shfaqet"

αυς-ais ..shqip ..ai.Turperisht meyer e quan fjalen si huazim rumun te shqipes.Greqishtja e re e ruan si "aftos=ai" edhe kjo tregon shqipen me te vjeter se vete greqishtja.

φατο-fato-fat...greqishtja e re e perdore per "tiqi=fate"

εβας- e vas-vash...greqishtja e re e perdore si "porevome=vete=eci"

εβη-e vi..vij.Greqishtja e re e perdore si "erkome=vij.

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Greqizimi i fjaleve pellazge u be me nje (os)ose (is)ne fund.

Post  sulioti on Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:52 am

Por ka dhe nga ato qe ngelen te paprekura per vete faktin,se popullsia dominuse edhe pas greqizimit,ishin,jan Shqiptare, fjala vjen emri Athina,ngeli ashtu sic qe dikur ,fale prezences se pandeprer,te shqiptarve qe nga koha e formimit te saj deri me sot.Kurse per fjalen THEATRO(s)nuk kemi te bejm, vetem me rrenjen shqip (the) por me te gjithe fjalen,sepse eshte kuptimplote,nese marrim parasysh,thenjet qe perdoreshin ne keto skena antike,duhe te dalim ne konkluzionin se;Theatro(s)=
the=thenia e thena
at=at-aterve
ro=rron

A ishin keto thenie te vjetra qe luheshin ne keto skena antike apo me duket mua.

Nje shembull tjeter, per te forcuar ate qe thash me lart, eshte dhe fjala tjeter,shqipe e vjeter,(gr)GJATRRO(S) sot doktor.Nese do merrnim per baz vetem rrenjen shqipe(gjat)kjo nuk na nxierr ne drit asgje, per vete faktin se termi gjat,mund te perdoret kudo,per formimin e nje fjale apo fjalie.Fjala e jep te gjith kuptimin e saj,ashtu sic ka arritur e gjitha, me perjashtim te asaj (s) ne fund dmth;Gjatrro(s)=
gjat=gjat
rro=rro ose rron
Kjo eshte dhe puna e doktorit, fale tij ne;RROojm GJATe.

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  orakulli on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:15 am

Pikerisht ketu qendron sekreti zberthimor,ne lidhjen llogjike te mirkro fjaleve ne makrofjalen rezultante.Kjo tregon qe nje gjuhe e meparshme eshte marr si baze.Eshte njesoj si ndertimi i nje shtepie,e cila ka te domosdoshme themelet.Kjo tregon njekohesisht dhe rinine e gjuhes greke dhe vjetersine e gjuhes shqipe.Ne kete drejtim rrezohet etimologjia dhe fillon llogjikollogjia gjuhesore.Fjale me kuptime te ndryshme por me kombinacione rrenjesh te njejta.Kjo e rezon etimologjine,vetem se duhet gjet sensi ose drejtimi kuptimor qe ka kap ndertuesi ne momentin e formimit.Pra thjesht duhet te veten 2000 vjet me pare e me shume.
Njesia "gjat" ka keto forma kryesore:
1.gjat
2.glad(t) ne Tzamerishte.
Kjo mund te prodhoj ne lidhje matematikore llogjike gjuhesore me mijera njesi.
Po marr nje nga shembujt:Gladiator=i gjati(kupton edhe njekohesisht trupmadhi).G-kod shume i rendesishem per gjuhen shqipe,kupton "trup" madhi",ndersa "lat"(me form'tjeter:lant) tregom gjatesi-lartesi kohore,materie.Kjo vete me vone dhe behet "lart" per te dhen nje kuptim ne sensin e lartesise.Burimi me i vogel ndertues eshte "at(d)".Ne nje sens,ate te jetes njerezore ajo tregon nje distance kohore per nje njesi njerezore,a-fillim,t-fund,kjo per njeriunnjeriun,por tregon vetem nga "a" dhe paresine si te nje grupi te mevonshem qe rjedh prej tij si dhe vjetersine kur ai vutet ne dhe,prej atij momenti e me tej ne kohe.Gjuha greqishte ka brenda saj me mijera fjale te shqipes vjeter,ne konceptin mikrogramatik.Po keshtu dhe latinishtja, e gjuhet e reja pas tyre.Kjo shpikje njeher u be dhe vetem nga nje komb,pastaj vetem zbatoheshin kodet,ku kuptohet nuk kishte me shume terren per te krijuar te reja,por per te formuar te reja duke bashkuar ne mijera kombinime te gjuhes se atlanteve.
Nga kjo analize e imja,tani mun te kuptohe shume qarte pse bibla ka koncepte te gjuhes shqipe brenda saj,duke filluar qe prej kreut "Adam" qe do te thot "at jam".Kjo vjen sepse krishti dhe dishepujt njihnin shume mire kete gjuhe,e cila ne ate kohe futej pak si eshte sot njohja e magjikollogjise.Ati i gjithe njerezve nuk mund te jete Zoti,por ai qe solli zoti ne toke per here te pare.Njesoj dhe me muhametin qe "adam" e ben "adem" ku tenton te veje tek koncepti shumes "at em=At jem".ketu kemi nje diskutim te perdorimit te vetes se pare nga ndertuesit.Por mun te ishte ne perdorim dhe veta e dyte,ose e trete ose perdorimi i deshirores se shqipes ne formim e ri.Ne deshirore kemi bashkebisedim ndermjet ndertuesit dhe thelbit karakteristik t'njesise qe po i vihet emri.T'rrosh gjate,shqipja e sotme.Shqipja e vjeter(vetem anglishtja mba kete sens sot) e cila ne gjuhen e folur perdoret "gjate t'rrosh".Ai person qe te ben qe te rrosh gjate,kuptohet qe eshte "gjatros" ose "doktor".Do k't'or,ku.or eshte dimensioni negativ i "ro-rro".

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Re: Ancient ""Greek"""---- Albanian

Post  orakulli on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:43 am

Shume budallenj thone pershembul qe fjala "babi,baba" vjen nga turqishtja apo arabishtja.Pse italianet i thone plakut te vitit te ri "babo natale"????Ceshte kjo "bab" ne nje gjuhe qe pretendohet qe nuk ka jetuar me ndikimin arab???Argument tjeter eshte fjala.papa,ku kemi trandsformimin fonetik b>p.Pse ka ndikim gjuha angleze nga arabet???E verteta kush eshte?
Eshte nje fjale me e re se fjala "at" por ne thelb ndertimor ka perseri konceptin "a" te gjuhes shqipe,tek fjal at.Eshte bazuar ndertimi tek "at" por perdoret kodi i "b" qe do te thote me shkurt"be A-n".
Arabet e kane ndertuar kete kocept te ri nga shqipfolesi e gjuhe-komb t'ri ndertuesi Muhamet.
Po ky "ataturk" pse nuk eshte "babaturk" ,sepse fjalen "atai' turqit e kane ndertuar nga "at" te shqipes.Kur,ku kjo eshte per tu gjet.At eshte perdorur nga shqipfolesit,para ardhjes se turqeve ne ballkan.po keshtu dhe papa,babo etj.

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