My outlook to Albanian history

Hello mighty Albanians.
From my historical experience, i know that:

1. Albanians do not have rich written culture, something which made them vulnerable to influences.

2. Their first book is written in Latin influence, and as it is commonly accepted, the Pope seeked to influence the world using Latin dictionary. I'm speaking of the Catholic book called "Meshari" which is of minor historical or linguistic importance.

anyway, I find more possible the scenario that we (Greeks) are genetic relatives with Albanians (cousins) that politics of 20th century broke our bonds (at least with Southern Albanians).

Romanos wrote:Hello mighty Albanians.
From my historical experience, i know that:

1. Albanians do not have rich written culture, something which made them vulnerable to influences.

2. Their first book is written in Latin influence, and as it is commonly accepted, the Pope seeked to influence the world using Latin dictionary. I'm speaking of the Catholic book called "Meshari" which is of minor historical or linguistic importance.

anyway, I find more possible the scenario that we (Greeks) are genetic relatives with Albanians (cousins) that politics of 20th century broke our bonds (at least with Southern Albanians).

Hold your horses Romanos, first introduce yourself and tell us something about you. Then you have to explain why you arrived at that conclusion? What did you do in your mind that makes you feel that your conclusion is accurate?
However I think you are partially correct.

Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

ZEUS10 wrote:

Romanos wrote:Hello mighty Albanians.
From my historical experience, i know that:

1. Albanians do not have rich written culture, something which made them vulnerable to influences.

2. Their first book is written in Latin influence, and as it is commonly accepted, the Pope seeked to influence the world using Latin dictionary. I'm speaking of the Catholic book called "Meshari" which is of minor historical or linguistic importance.

anyway, I find more possible the scenario that we (Greeks) are genetic relatives with Albanians (cousins) that politics of 20th century broke our bonds (at least with Southern Albanians).

Hold your horses Romanos, first introduce yourself and tell us something about you. Then you have to explain why you arrived at that conclusion? What did you do in your mind that makes you feel that your conclusion is accurate?
However I think you are partially correct.

I could say he might be entirely correct.

nikos_Mk wrote:

Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

Ok, but we are talking about Albanian history and I don't think somebody pointed you any question.

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

Ok, but we are talking about Albanian history and I don't think somebody pointed you any question.

Well, the reason I am here is that you have developed some wild theories, especially you Zeus10 , you don't know that Zeus was a Greek God, why an Albanian should carry that name?

nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, the reason I am here is that you have developed some wild theories, especially you Zeus10 ,

So you are the hope of the Greek pride? right?

you don't know that Zeus was a Greek God,

What happened to him, where did you loose your Greek God?

why an Albanian should carry that name?

For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

ZEUS10 wrote:
For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

Show me a proof for that if you can .......... haaaaa haaaaaa

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

Show me a proof for that if you can .......... haaaaa haaaaaa

I can show you many proofs not just one, just don't close your eyes.

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

Show me a proof for that if you can .......... haaaaa haaaaaa

I can show you many proofs not just one, just don't close your eyes.

Lol your oldest text is only 550 years old and your oldest book written in Albanian using latin letters(not even yours ) is only 450 years old while our Homerus is at least 2800 years old .

nikos_Mk wrote:
Lol your oldest text is only 550 years old and your oldest book written in Albanian using latin letters(not even yours ) is only 450 years old while our Homerus is at least 2800 years old .

Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

nikos_Mk wrote:

Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

So you are a Christian turk


Lots of quotes here about the earliest dwellers of what is now "the republic of Greece" before your great grand parents came from pontus turkey and anatolia iraq.

https://arbenia.forumotion.com/quotes-albanian-history-f21/quotes-mix-long-from-books-t272.htm

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

If you are talking about Iliad, the first one is μῆνιν meaning the anger, what about it?

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

If you are talking about Iliad, the first one is μῆνιν meaning the anger, what about it?

No , nothing it's just happen to be identical to the Albanian mënin(in accusative), that's all.

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

If you are talking about Iliad, the first one is μῆνιν meaning the anger, what about it?

No , nothing it's just happen to be identical to the Albanian mënin(in accusative), that's all.

Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

Listen bro, I am not denying that Albanians and Greeks have lived together side by side since very old times, but Greek history has been recognized as authentic by the entire World while Albanian ...I am sorry..

Are you Marios cousin, I thought I invited him.....

Is ok, "os for os", same thing...

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

Listen bro, I am not denying that Albanians and Greeks have lived together side by side since very old times, but Greek history has been recognized as authentic by the entire World while Albanian ...I am sorry..

You came from Turkey and Iraq for god sakes, WTF are you talking about this "Greek" history.

nikos_Mk wrote:

ZEUS10 wrote:

nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

Listen bro, I am not denying that Albanians and Greeks have lived together side by side since very old times, but Greek history has been recognized as authentic by the entire World while Albanian ...I am sorry..

It's OK you don't need to be sorry, we will live with it for now, but dont forget the truth always prevails, keep deep in mind.