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Post  Romanos on Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:40 pm

Hello mighty Albanians.
From my historical experience, i know that:

1. Albanians do not have rich written culture, something which made them vulnerable to influences.

2. Their first book is written in Latin influence, and as it is commonly accepted, the Pope seeked to influence the world using Latin dictionary. I'm speaking of the Catholic book called "Meshari" which is of minor historical or linguistic importance.

anyway, I find more possible the scenario that we (Greeks) are genetic relatives with Albanians (cousins) that politics of 20th century broke our bonds (at least with Southern Albanians).

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:48 pm

@Romanos wrote:Hello mighty Albanians.
From my historical experience, i know that:

1. Albanians do not have rich written culture, something which made them vulnerable to influences.

2. Their first book is written in Latin influence, and as it is commonly accepted, the Pope seeked to influence the world using Latin dictionary. I'm speaking of the Catholic book called "Meshari" which is of minor historical or linguistic importance.

anyway, I find more possible the scenario that we (Greeks) are genetic relatives with Albanians (cousins) that politics of 20th century broke our bonds (at least with Southern Albanians).

Hold your horses Romanos, first introduce yourself and tell us something about you. Then you have to explain why you arrived at that conclusion? What did you do in your mind that makes you feel that your conclusion is accurate?
However I think you are partially correct.

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Post  Leka on Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:51 pm

Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:53 pm

@Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:58 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@Romanos wrote:Hello mighty Albanians.
From my historical experience, i know that:

1. Albanians do not have rich written culture, something which made them vulnerable to influences.

2. Their first book is written in Latin influence, and as it is commonly accepted, the Pope seeked to influence the world using Latin dictionary. I'm speaking of the Catholic book called "Meshari" which is of minor historical or linguistic importance.

anyway, I find more possible the scenario that we (Greeks) are genetic relatives with Albanians (cousins) that politics of 20th century broke our bonds (at least with Southern Albanians).

Hold your horses Romanos, first introduce yourself and tell us something about you. Then you have to explain why you arrived at that conclusion? What did you do in your mind that makes you feel that your conclusion is accurate?
However I think you are partially correct.

I could say he might be entirely correct.

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:02 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

Ok, but we are talking about Albanian history and I don't think somebody pointed you any question.

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:07 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.

Ok, but we are talking about Albanian history and I don't think somebody pointed you any question.

Well, the reason I am here is that you have developed some wild theories, especially you Zeus10 , you don't know that Zeus was a Greek God, why an Albanian should carry that name?

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:12 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, the reason I am here is that you have developed some wild theories, especially you Zeus10 ,
So you are the hope of the Greek pride? right?

you don't know that Zeus was a Greek God,
What happened to him, where did you loose your Greek God?

why an Albanian should carry that name?

For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:18 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

Show me a proof for that if you can Laughing Laughing lol! .......... haaaaa haaaaaa

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:20 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

Show me a proof for that if you can Laughing Laughing lol! .......... haaaaa haaaaaa

I can show you many proofs not just one, just don't close your eyes.

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:24 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
For the simple reason because he was an Albanian God and he remains an Albanian God.

Show me a proof for that if you can Laughing Laughing lol! .......... haaaaa haaaaaa

I can show you many proofs not just one, just don't close your eyes.

Lol your oldest text is only 550 years old and your oldest book written in Albanian using latin letters(not even yours Laughing ) is only 450 years old while our Homerus is at least 2800 years old Embarassed .

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:27 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
Lol your oldest text is only 550 years old and your oldest book written in Albanian using latin letters(not even yours Laughing ) is only 450 years old while our Homerus is at least 2800 years old Embarassed .

Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:30 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:33 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:35 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.
Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:36 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.
Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  Leka on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:37 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@Leka wrote:Are you an Arvanit (Arber) or a new commer aka "christian turk"

None of those we are Hellenes and derive certainly from a paleo-Balkan nation called Hellenes again and again. We have the richest history in Europe , the umbilicus of entire Europian civilisation.




So you are a Christian turk


Lots of quotes here about the earliest dwellers of what is now "the republic of Greece" before your great grand parents came from pontus turkey and anatolia iraq.

http://arbenia.forumotion.com/quotes-albanian-history-f21/quotes-mix-long-from-books-t272.htm

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:41 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.
Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

If you are talking about Iliad, the first one is μῆνιν meaning the anger, what about it?

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:43 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.
Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

If you are talking about Iliad, the first one is μῆνιν meaning the anger, what about it?
No , nothing it's just happen to be identical to the Albanian mënin(in accusative), that's all.

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:45 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
Are you sure Homer is yours? What exactly do you mean with yours?
And if you insist claiming him yours, how many words do you understand from him?

Well a long time elapsed since then, and the language evolved to the one we are speaking. What do you expect?

I am sure it evolved and changed coming in the shape of the Albanian language.
Albanian language? Show me a word from Homerus not identical but just similar

Ok, let's start with the very first . By the way, do you know which one I am talking about?

If you are talking about Iliad, the first one is μῆνιν meaning the anger, what about it?
No , nothing it's just happen to be identical to the Albanian mënin(in accusative), that's all.

Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

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Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:48 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

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Post  nikos_Mk on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:52 pm

@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

Listen bro, I am not denying that Albanians and Greeks have lived together side by side since very old times, but Greek history has been recognized as authentic by the entire World while Albanian ...I am sorry.. Evil or Very Mad Question

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Post  AuLoNa on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:56 pm

Are you Marios cousin, I thought I invited him..... Laughing

Is ok, "os for os", same thing... tongue

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Post  Leka on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:58 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

Listen bro, I am not denying that Albanians and Greeks have lived together side by side since very old times, but Greek history has been recognized as authentic by the entire World while Albanian ...I am sorry.. Evil or Very Mad Question


You came from Turkey and Iraq for god sakes, WTF are you talking about this "Greek" history.

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Re: My outlook to Albanian history

Post  ZEUS10 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:00 pm

@nikos_Mk wrote:
@ZEUS10 wrote:
@nikos_Mk wrote:
Well, Albanian is an Indo-Europian language 2 , isn't it?

Yeah of course, but sounds like an excusse to me.

Listen bro, I am not denying that Albanians and Greeks have lived together side by side since very old times, but Greek history has been recognized as authentic by the entire World while Albanian ...I am sorry.. Evil or Very Mad Question

It's OK you don't need to be sorry, we will live with it for now, but dont forget the truth always prevails, keep deep in mind.

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